Exactly Zyko. Onyx, if you wanna be upset about something in this thread, please read what has been written, you are yapping on about stuff that you've made up yourself. Nobody has even mentioned creating rules, at least not anyone from the staff (which are the only people you should listen to, in a matter like that... obviously )

Well let me say, as you can imagine, that I stil don't agree with the rate you give, and also I don't agree with the 9... curious that I've received a 10 from you for a work done faster than the last one...

^true.
No actions have been announced or anything, yet some of you are offending members over it

The voting is shameful sometimes too, such easy 9-10's given with so much more room for improvement..

Yes but if i didn't say anything because i know i am not doing anything wrong, and the suggestions mentioned here actually get applied bi the staff it would affect me and how people look at my chops and rate them.

Better safe than sorry

how the fuck can there be so much hate against this?

do you guys really want to see shitty C/P chops, rather than chops where the artist actually put some effort into trying to make something creative?

and to make myself clear as fucking day, I MEAN FULL C/P CHOPS, WICH J_HUI MENTIONED, NOT EVERYTHING WITH SOMETHING C/P:ED.

and no. all chops shouldn´t have to be fully brushed, but using a full car as a main donor together with the backdrop of the donor, is way too much C/P.

am i wrong, or are people feeling like they can´t keep up to their normal standards without copying everything?

I personally agree with what you've said.. But what about the artists who cannot brush? Yes, copy and pasting- making it fit the basic lines of the car and then brushing the rest to make it fit? Is that acceptable? Im not sure there should be a name and shame thread, because that will be singling out all the newer choppers and I don't think anything would be fair then. My personal opinion...

Well I thought that this is argument about C/P just like u Katee
but it isn't, this is an argument about the raping just 1 donor ( using just 1 donor for the C/P: reflections, wheels, bg, body kit and etc.) they are talking about that.
Imo it is ok to use several donors , different donors for every part of the car.
And imo all of this shit is about that, all this damn drama is about raping the donor.................
I bet that most of u guys are gonna agree with that me!!!!

Tomiii, bang on, pretty much took the words out of my mouth.
Wise words xan, appreciate your input.

I'll just have to accept the fact this is what the chopping community has become and accept the facts.
I guess Copying a wheel is the same as copying and pasting a whole image ontop, there is no right or wrong amount of copying, I was just posting in hopes of bringing back some originality/ uniqueness in the scene and we dont have to start doubting how much work is put into chops because we've seen something before.

I guess it's back to work as usual, there wont be need for proper action.

But J it isn't same thing just to C/P wheel and C/P the whole car on top of the base
Imo it is ok to use from 1 donor front bumper, second one wheels, third headlights, reflections and etc.
But raping the donar an pasting the whole car that's wrong, except when u have to use decals from some car
example:
like onyx did with that golf mk1 i think, with that audi donor

I feel like the point of this thread still doesnt quite get through to people. So I'll try to explain it differently. There are a ton of potential C/P sources, and everyone has access to them to build very unique things, it just isnt happening.

For the C/P parts you can draw a comparison with good old LEGO blocks. Lets say you buy a kid one of them big LEGO Airport boxes:


This is the starting point. The kid uses the LEGO bricks and builds himself a nifty airport according to the diagram that came with it, so it looks exactly like the airport on the cover. So after a while the child gets tired of playing with his airport, breaks it down and the LEGO pieces go back into the box.
Next day comes and he opens the box back up. Instead of rebuilding the airport, now he uses the same pieces to build a police station, and the next day a spaceship, and the next day a garage.

That is where the comparison ends though. Because while the 8 year old kid thinks of something new to build with his LEGOs, you guys just keep building airports. One after another. Even though a few individual LEGO bricks might end up in different places, we can all tell you're building airports. And then you present these airports as your own design. Some guy at LEGO headquarters who came up with the airport now feels like shit.

The internet is just that, a very large box of parts. But you just keep rebuilding whatever's on the pictures and presenting it as your own work. No, the trick to C/P is combining unique pieces and adding elements of your own.