wooohooooo finally

but please don't turn this into a witch hunt..

X DID IT!!!! BURN HIM

I have read all your posts against c/p so it would be nice if you would read mine that defends it, thanks

I think this is a bit stupid, let me explain...
I used to hate donors and c/p, i brushed without references because i thought c/p puts bounds on my creativity and makes people do with what they have and not what would be perfect in the head because of the realism degradation by doing it.

After making my Silvia S13 kit car i got bored with brushing and just couldn't finish a chop because i did the sickest thing i could think off and every new idea was killed because the execution of it took to much time and selections (when brushing things that i didn't modify) so i lost inspiration and will to show my chop and style to the world...

So after a long pause i started to participate in small competitions with short time to chop (by the way i have a car, a job, a girl and a life so chopping 10h a day isn't an option for me any more, so f*ck those who want crap on me, my newer chops and put my name on some walls of shame because they have nothing smarter to do because i simplyfied my life by expressing myself through copy and paste rather than nothing!) and the only way to finish a chop in time was not to brush stupid things like side mirrors or roofs or hoods and other boring stuff...

And well, i like that method! Which if you do it properly and aim to a fully realistic chop can be a bit tricky and you have to use a lot more than smudge and wrap tools to get it done. (yes i know that fully realistic brushing in 10X harder but lets be real, brushing is in 99% cases how ever god it was not real, and i hate the gay sparkly stuff i started to see on chops, looks like lip gloss not metallic paint...)

All in all, my point is, if you love brushing, do it, i don't care if you spent month's on making it sparkly and shiny so it should be awesome just by that(doesn't matter if the rim is off, look at the bling-bling biAt*h) , but for me it's still a Honda with OZ rims and i won't give you 10/10 no matter how good it's brushed, i rate chop's on how cool the idea or style is, and after that look at the execution and decide do i like it enough to rate it at all.

c/p makes Autemo look bad? Why? I don't make chops for clients over Autemo with c/p, why would anybody care about me using some stance nation donors? Choppers who work with clients have to strictly brush if they are selling their original designs with copy rights and selling their skill, i don't sell my self as a artist with my Lupo or what ever, i just wanted to make it cool looking and i did it how it makes me happy weather you like it or not. And by annoying me and other choppers in the future with stupid rules like the ones you are suggesting here you will just make autemo full of crappy brushes of people who decide not to leave and it will be less advertised like stance nation and other sites that appear on chops you so hate...

At the end of the day, we all break somebody's rights bi using backgrounds and rims and so on and so on so why are you making a fuss out of it?

And on the giving lower grades to chops just because they are c/p on which was used only one donor for the paint, wtf?? By what standards and who will judge which c/p is ok and which will be put on the wall of shame and crapped on and which c/p puts shame on autemo and which not, and who will decide is the donor in the angle different enough so it is worth rating because it wasn't simple to make and it has a little amount of original donor parts not changed?? If you didn't know c/p and brush chopping are two different techniques and shouldn't be compared in nothing else than the ideas they represent!

For the end:
Here is only one donor used for the whole chop, should it be crapped on because every mud splash isn't brushed? Be real, it would still be the same car and it would look the same but it would take 10X more time to make, and what would I(ME) get by it? NOTHING!



Here i used one and the same donor for the paint and background because it was perfect for executing my vision, what would i get if i had to brush it fully because let's say the donor was from stance nation just so i could i post it here(in the paralel universe where this stupid rules are on) ? If i would even finished it, it wouldn't be so realistic and awesome for shore and i wouldn't fulfill my idea, why? Because some choppers don't like this technique? Well i don't like the brushing technique used like this (http://www.autemo.com/dc/users/1/XU0IO/274/chops/GoldDrift13_by_Zykotec.jpg) but i don't bitch around...

Go chop something, stop spamming...

Totally agree on every single word here !
When i think of c/p works which should be "punished" is a choped Corsa with Corsa donor(for example) and 100% used donor(wheels,bg,interior,every single part of the image).
Other thing that we have to think here is the fun part of the choping.Most of the people here don't work for clients,they(we) just chop to express ideas and ourselves,so who cares if we use donors.Selling our work is another thing.We need to make a clear line between chops for fun and selling.

Yes, I agree with onyx. And something I've noticed: I don't like C/P chops and full brushed machines. I like to chop in photorealistic style, but without brushing the parts what look good on the base already, and copy only the parts what I need. But that's not enough for the community. Maybe 5% of the tuners like this out dated style, focusing on the car itself and not on the atmosphere and environment or other stupid, unrealistic brushed reflections etc. You need to make a fully brushed beast to get a good vote, or if you can't do that, need something what in trend, and that is stance. I hate the style but now every body makes cars lowered to the ground, sticker bombed and so on. For example: every body can see flashy neon colored rims under a Civic, what is rebrushed. But nobody will notice the Audi's door handles on my Golf. And that's because about the half of the new tuners don't know anything about cars, and won't assess the creativity. Just see the pro's works and try to make a similar chop. So if we make stanced cars the "new generation" will make stanced cars too. This is the same with C/P-ed or brushed cars. If you don't want that, try to make on your rides original ideas and vote for them on the other's chops, and not just for the good implementation of trite things.

I agree with onyx too...I must say,C/P is just a chopping style,and I like it!
Copy/Paste chops doesn't make Autemo bad,badly full brushed chops do. Everybody has their own style,and I respect that. But you can't make people stop do what they enjoy to do just because you don't think it's "not creative".Everybody has their opinion,and mine is: "C/P is not illegal,it's metter of choise.!"
Some of these guys are into choping world since it's actually invented.And you know that c/p was always popular,since begining,so who are you to judge who will make chops in brush method or rebrush or c/p? Remember,we were all copy/pasters once,and there won't be new choppers with full knowledge about brushing,they need to start somewhere!
And I agree with TK,chops with 100% c/p should be punished somehow,but not with " shame thread" or how you call it.That would just reduce desire for chopping.

My opinion about this thread: You need to find better solution...

P.S. I want old autemo back,without all these stupid rules,chopping was funnier before. Chopping now have strict rules,and we all have to abide by them,unfortunately...
YES,we need rules,but not stupid rules which will destroy a community. Peace

very well said!!

depends on how you look at that 100%, if all parts are c/p 'ed together from different donors a punishment would be unfair, if it's all from 1 donor, then a punishment is in place
I agree on the no shame thread part tho, when I got that warning for that Hyundai Genesis I already felt pretty damn bad about what happened and didn't wanna chop anything a while, and I still feel like you guys kinda neglect my chops since, cuz I haven't had alot of replies on my threads anymore, which isn't very motivating to post new works here, so imagine what a shame thread would do? It would kill the site.. Punishments when they're in place, yes! But not in public! We'll notice when a certain member is gone, or suddenly makes a bigger effort after a warning.

the three last posts (before iCreate) here either show a ridiculously bad attitude and judgment or you are just misunderstanding things.

-Onyx, I understand what you mean about 'cheating' being easier than doing the actual work, but in most cases, if you provide the actual base insetad of posting a 'fake' base, people will be allright with it. The Qattro-Golf could easily have been a very nice chop with some more work.
If you don't have time to chop 10h a day, post one chop a month like some of us do...don't cheat... It is possible to make photorealistic c+p chops without using only one donor though. Posting on of my 'close to full brushes' is silly because I'm crap at brushing still, and that Nissan is part of an early learning curve for me (and nobody(or very few) likes my style anyway) my usual style would be c+p but with (excessively)multiple donors and some brushed parts...like this





-zr1, you're first line tells me you don't agree with Onyx,looking at your chops tell me you do agree with him...

-Srcky, your white 370Z/350Z is a disgrace to the chopping community (not because it's bad, but you posted a different Nissan as your fake 'base' ), but you have done some good chops, both before and after.

Point is, using donors is all right, brushing isn't the only acceptable method (but when done properly it can be awesome)

be nice, stop the cheating

This needs to go through more peoples heads when they are chopping:

I have to admit that a few of my older chops were pretty much identical to other cars/photographs out there, which thinking about now was a complete waste of time as I wasn't designing anything new. I should have just found a photograph of that car, changed the background and wheels to my liking and maybe to make the overall image look better. That could have been completed in about a tenth of the time, than distorting the donor over "base" image.

I think we all need to go back to what chopping was like a few years ago when the main modification was not paint or reflections, but bodykits, bg, wheels, cleaning/changing a few reflections etc, whether those be c&p from a dozen donors, brushing or both.

I made a "shame thread" or one for chops that look misleading/mischievous awhile ago but Jack deleted it.

And lol @ srcky, there's pretty much one rule on here - DON'T STEAL.