Construct wrote:
Personally I think it should be the opposite. Generic 90's/early '00 coupé (even if it's a skyline or hachiroku) for miscellaneous competitions - and quirky, socially, culturally and economically relevant bases as main competition material.
The only reason we keep seeing Voltex kit #23589723 and 99% C+P jobs is because the bases are way too generic. Besides, with more relevant bases we can showcase the chops and potentially gain some outside interest.
They may not have such a big number of entries, but that is because of the challenge. We are talking about the best of the standalone choppers on Autemo here. We need to push people out of their comfort zone otherwise choppers like Hugo are just gonna fall into the same routine and easily churn out results. Last year's bases weren't very inspiring.
I know where your coming from here, but I don't think choosing quirky bases discerns the good choppers from the worse, but those that are willing to tough it out. There's a reason why Hugo, RAS and rc82 did well in the competitions last year (which had more simple and easy bases) and it's because they have the skills - they're all Elite. And from what I've seen, it's not the 99% C&P or the same old stuff that does well in the comps but the brushed works with originality. I don't see much C&P in the top chops
here. Obviously as you go down the list there will be a bit more C&P, but that's only because those choppers are less skilled (which makes sense as they should be placed lower) and their brushwork is not up to scratch... but at least they still have the opportunity to submit something that looks quite polished.
So in my opinion the Autemo Championships should be a platform for all choppers to compete, where members know what to expect each competition. I believe that it'll build interest in the forum (boosting the number of active members) and help to develop a consistent influx of new members wishing to participate in simple and regular competition. The miscellaneous competitions should stay as they're defined - for those competitions that don't fit in elsewhere. And that's exactly what themed comps, socially relevant and other quirky comps are... ones that don't fit in
So why not introduce a competition that runs along side the Autemo Championships, including all those quirky and relevant bases? I actually suggested a very similar idea to what went on in this thread over a year ago. I'll post it here as it's pretty relevant.
Klaus wrote:
I think ATC has the best idea here. I think any other method would be too complicated. The ratings system would have to be based on competitions - after all every sport I can think of is based on competitions. In my opinion, being able to produce work when you're either pressured for time or lacking inspiration shows the true ability of a chopper - it shows they're able to produce quality work when their out of their comfort zone. It will also mean a more diverse portfolio for the choppers who compete.
Continuing this idea of competitions, they need to be more specific to particular styles of chopping. Perhaps there could be a brushing challenges, copy and paste challenges and then possibly JDM, VIP or DUB, Time attack, concepts, etc. based competitions. This, as I said, will show the true ability of a chopper. For example, someone like nordic man who brushes all of his chops may wish to compete in the copy and paste competition to have a go at something different. Of course if he doesn't want to compete he doesn't have to, but it would show he has the ability to produce quality work outside of his comfort zone. For someone like myself who does a lot of time-attack/JDM style chops, it would be a breath of fresh air to try something like a concept car. For example - take the 2011 Subaru WRX and redesign it for 2012, bringing it back to it's roots - or something like that.
**Snip, snip** (irrelevant paragraph)
With the results there could be two tables. One for overall votes or points received and another for the average points received per competition (for those people who had competed in at least a certain amount of competitions - possibly half). This would give those people who don't have the time to compete in every competition the ability to see how they compare at least.
I was also just pondering about the "preferred style" on the portfolios. Perhaps there could be some sort of bonus for the people who compete in styles other than their preferred style. This would promote choppers going outside of their preferred style of chopping, widening their horizons and portfolio.
Just noticed that ATC's idea of "average points per comp" was ripped off me!!!
I knew it sounded familiar
So in summary....
- The Autemo Championships should stay as they are - a regular and easy competition for choppers of all levels to participate
- A new championship, perhaps the "Miscellaneous Championships", could be introduced to offer a breath of fresh air for those choppers bored of the Autemo Champs format (as explained it would also show those choppers able to adapt and chop when lacking inspiration).
Post edited January 15, 2012 at 07:42:38 AM by Klaus
puszka321 wrote:
please video
MK211 wrote:
I really like the nos coming out of the rims
Although the current drop and drag system would be fine for this, it's just a matter of getting the community to vote fairly.... or perhaps bring in judges?
